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Silver’s Breakout Has Begun & Gold Price to Double or Triple

Michael Oliver

In this July Wrap Up episode, Craig Hemke interviews Michael Oliver, who reveals why silver has officially entered its acceleration phase and could surge past $50 to $70 or more this year. He explains why $200 silver price per oz isn’t a crazy idea and how gold price, despite its recent sideways movement, remains in a strong long-term uptrend that could see it double or even triple. Explore momentum analysis, central bank panic, stock market signals, and why smart money is quietly rotating into gold, silver, and miners before the next big move.

 

Physical Gold And Silver Demand Growing Amid Dollar Decay

With over four decades in market analysis, Oliver emphasized the critical role of gold and silver as monetary assets, especially amid deteriorating fiat currency strength. His analysis points to a continued uptrend in gold that began in 2016. “We turned bullish on gold in 2015, excuse me, February 2016, two and a half months off the bear low, which was 1,050. Right now we're 3,400 area,” he said. Notably, Oliver differentiates between price action and his proprietary momentum structural analysis, noting that despite gold’s sideways motion since April, no structural downside break has occurred: “Nothing structurally in terms of defining the trend on momentum is even threatened right now in terms of breakage, downside breakage.”

Oliver points out that gold is reacting to the devaluation of the dollar, not just market cycles: “It’s because of the decay in the dollar, not because of increase in bread prices.” As the Federal Reserve increases the money supply disproportionately to population growth, real-world purchasing power continues to erode. He added, “Gold’s gone up 11 fold. Okay, 11 fold,” in contrast to the S&P, which merely tripled in the same time frame. For investors looking to hedge against fiat debasement, physical metals offer a strong case. You can explore investment options in gold through Sprott Money’s physical gold products and take advantage of the Sprott Money Summer Sale.

 

Buy Silver As It Enters Acceleration Phase

While gold remained range-bound in recent months, silver surged sharply, shifting investor focus to the white metal. “Silver has gone up explosively. We've gone from the upper 20s to the upper 30s in that four month period,” said Oliver. This price action diverges from the historical norm where gold usually leads the charge. The current cycle sees silver and mining equities outpacing gold, marking a critical inflection point. “It's shifted in the last several months, especially since April,” Oliver noted. Silver has broken out of its upward trend channel established since its 2022 low, and he believes this marks the beginning of a dramatic bull run.

“Our expectation is this, it's not outlandish. The $50 highs we saw in 1980 and 2011 in silver... We'd probably have to go to $200 silver just to match the 1980 peak, you know, at 50 bucks,” he explained. Oliver expects a surge to $60–$70 silver within this year, demolishing prior highs. Silver’s relative underperformance over the past decade means it has far more room to rally compared to gold. According to him, this isn't just another temporary surge: “This isn't just another gold, silver bull market. This isn't just 1980 and then it's over... There are things going on out there that are far more disastrous.” For investors eyeing silver exposure, Sprott Money’s silver bullion offerings are a valuable entry point. Also, stay updated with the silver spot price to monitor real-time movements.

 

Gold Spot Price And Central Bank Reactions

According to Oliver, the gold spot price is already anticipating future central bank responses. As inflationary pressures and economic data deteriorate, central banks will be forced to act aggressively. “When that stuff, once the market starts down... that's when the central banks will go ape. And they always do,” Oliver asserted. Even though long-term bond yields have not responded positively to recent rate cuts, gold has held firm and continues to rise. “Gold already knows this is going to happen. That's why it's not sitting and waiting... it's already on its way,” he said. This sentiment suggests that monetary metals are no longer waiting for macro validation—they're front-running the crisis.

Portfolio managers and institutional investors are beginning to shift capital into gold, especially as T-bonds fail to deliver returns: “If you're a portfolio manager... T-bonds ain't working. Only gold's been working.” Oliver notes that gold’s performance over the past decade outpaces the stock market and bond market, underscoring its resilience as a long-term store of value. His remarks resonate with the understanding that gold is not just a commodity but a financial refuge, especially in uncertain times. For investors considering this trend, monitoring the gold spot price and making timely purchases is essential. 

 

Investing In Mining Stocks And Value Plays

Mining stocks, especially gold and silver miners, are gaining traction as a value-driven alternative in a market dominated by tech bubble dynamics. Oliver pointed out the absurdity of current market capitalizations: “What's Nvidia's market cap now, like $4 trillion. 1% of that comes out of just Nvidia, you know, and that's $40 billion. The whole GDX is only worth about 15.” This contrast showcases the undervalued state of miners, making them a potential windfall for smart money shifting out of overinflated tech stocks.

He highlighted GDX and SIL as key ETFs showing strong momentum. “You close a month out credibly over 50, and you're going to blow through even a price chart base,” Oliver explained, referring to SIL. Once the technical resistance at key levels is broken, the flow of capital will likely accelerate. “Miners could triple in relative value to gold over the next year or two,” he projected. If gold were to rise to $8,000, GDX could see staggering gains. This is especially relevant considering prior gold bull markets delivered eightfold returns. Investors not interested in futures or physical bullion may find mining stocks an attractive proxy

 

The Fed, Politics, And Monetary Policy Expectations

On the political front, Michael Oliver emphasized that who leads the Federal Reserve matters less than the trajectory of monetary policy. “It doesn't matter who's the president, who's the head of the Fed, even Powell's gonna shift,” he said. Though Trump has indicated he would replace Jerome Powell, Oliver sees a policy pivot as imminent regardless: “I suspect he'll shift probably in the next month or two.” The current economic landscape—with consumer debt, delayed taxes, and weak job growth masked by surface-level data—demands a reactive Fed. “Somebody's got to take care of grandma,” Oliver said humorously, criticizing the overreliance on service and government job creation.

He explains how weak internals of the labor market can be hidden in broader data, but once the market turns, “Powell’s going to get tapped on the shoulder by these people inside the Fed.” This pressure will lead to interest rate cuts, likely well before any political changes in 2025. In this context, gold appears even more valuable as a hedge against irresponsible monetary policy and loss of faith in fiat systems. Investors expecting inflationary policy shifts can safeguard wealth with physical bullion and mining exposure.

 

Outlook For Long-Term Gold And Silver Gains

Oliver concluded with a powerful long-term vision for precious metals, especially miners. “2011 peak was an eight-fold gain from its prior low in 2001... If we have an eight-fold, it means $8,000 gold,” he emphasized. This trajectory would imply even greater returns for silver and miners, particularly if mining equities triple in relative value to gold. He also described price action patterns like the “broadening top” forming in markets like the S&P and NASDAQ, warning that a minor pullback could reverse the illusion of strength.

As more investors lose confidence in mainstream equities, money will flow into the few remaining undervalued sectors. “Money's flowing into those miners. And I think it's a recognition that don't trust the stock market,” Oliver stated. The upside potential for miners and silver is significant, and the timing appears crucial. “This isn't just another gold, silver bull market,” he warned—this time, the macro backdrop is different, and the risks are far more systemic.

 

Take Action Now: Invest In Gold And Silver

Michael Oliver’s analysis strongly reinforces that now is the time to invest in gold and silver. As fiat currencies decay, central banks approach another panic cycle, and stock markets teeter near unsustainable highs, the opportunity for outsized gains in physical metals and mining stocks is unparalleled. 

Contact the Sprott Money team to learn more about gold and silver investments.

 

Craig Hemke (00:00)
Hello again from Sprott Money at SprottMoney.com. We've reached the end of July already, so it's time for your monthly wrap-up. I'm your host, Craig Hemke, and joining me is Michael Oliver of OliverMSA.com, known for his work in Momentum Structural Analysis.

If you watched the video I recorded last month with Eric himself, he mentioned what a big fan he is of Michael’s work. So I thought, well, jeez, this is a layup. Let's get Michael in here for July and hear what he thinks. So Michael, thank you so much for spending some time with us.

Michael Oliver (00:45)
Good to be back, Craig.

Craig Hemke (00:47)
As we get started, two quick things. One—at the end of July and into August—we're still running the Sprott Money Summer Sale. If you go to SprottMoney.com, you’ll see it right on the homepage. Click it. It’s one of the biggest sales of the year at Sprott Money. Great deals on physical gold and silver. Every day is a good day to be stacking, if you ask me.

And Sprott Money will certainly help you out—now through August 6. So you’ve got about a week or so to still take advantage of some great prices. Again, SprottMoney.com—look for the summer sale.

Michael, the other bit of housekeeping: I know who you are, Eric knows who you are, but can you briefly tell everyone a little about yourself and where they can find your work?

Michael Oliver (01:34)
Sure. It's OliverMSA.com, our Momentum Structural Analysis. We've been around since 1992. For the first 20 years, we only served institutional clients—major funds, hedge funds, some banks, etc. Eventually, we opened up to the public.

We look at all four major asset categories. We don’t just put on blinders and focus on stocks or bonds.

Craig Hemke (01:39)
Right.

Michael Oliver (02:04)
Gold, silver, commodities—with an emphasis on gold and silver, by the way—stock markets (plural, not just the U.S.), bonds, and foreign exchange. That cross-market influence is more important now than at any time in my experience, which dates back to the mid-1970s. I started in the futures side of the business at Hutton. The impact of one asset group on another is more significant than ever.

For example, gold rose from January through April this year, surging upward until mid-April. Meanwhile, the stock market collapsed. Total opposites.

Then, as the stock market rallied off its April low, gold paused. You might assume gold would drop when the S&P rallies, but it didn’t. Instead, gold went into a comatose state for four months. That’s not how gold tops. When gold tops, it tops. Look at 2011. Look at the 2015 low.

Craig Hemke (03:21)
Thank you.

Michael Oliver (03:32)
Or the 1980 high—clear, isolated peaks followed by collapse. But when gold sleeps for four months, even while the stock market is sucking money back in, and yet demand for gold persists—that tells you something. Despite sharp little drops, it rebounds immediately. We believe the stock market is making a major top.

That likely began in January. Yes, we’ve made marginal new highs since then—only about 3–4% above last year's highs. But that’s often what a top looks like: money flowing elsewhere. Historically, during major stock bear markets, not everything goes down. Some assets rise.

Craig Hemke (04:04)
Thank you.

Michael Oliver (04:28)
Two things that historically go up are long-term T-bonds and gold.

Gold has already been in a 10-year uptrend. Major cycles are driven not by headlines, but by the ongoing decay of the money unit—the dollar. I don’t mean the dollar versus the euro or yen, I mean its real buying power. When I was a kid, a loaf of bread cost 20 cents. That’s not because bread got more expensive; it’s because the dollar lost value.

Craig Hemke (05:10)
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Michael Oliver (05:11)
The real value of the dollar declines as its quantity expands. M2 money supply nearly doubles every decade, while population growth doesn’t. And in the past 10–15 years, the growth in money supply has steepened even further. Look at the Federal Reserve’s M2 chart.

Naturally, prices rise because the dollar’s value drops in real terms. Consider the S&P: more than tripled over the past 25 years. Sounds good, right? But gold has gone up 11-fold.

Craig Hemke (06:06)
Right.

Michael Oliver (06:08)
Of course, you didn’t get all 11x gains unless you held tight—but it’s there. We turned bullish on gold in February 2016, just a couple of months off the bear low at $1,050. We’re now in the $3,400 area.

Nothing in the past 10 years has structurally changed the long-term trend on our momentum charts. We use monthly bars measured against a 36-month moving average, creating an oscillator. We’re still in bullish territory.

This four-month pause is, in our view, about to end—likely next month.

Craig Hemke (07:20)
Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes, sir.

Michael Oliver (07:35)
And look what’s happened in the last four months. Gold went sideways, but silver surged—from the upper 20s to upper 30s. GDX has also risen sharply while gold held still.

That’s a shift. Since 2020, gold had traded in a tight range while silver and miners tended to lag or drop. But now silver and the miners are leading. That’s typical in strong gold bull markets.

Craig Hemke (08:24)
Right, right.

Michael Oliver (08:33)
This shift has become more evident since April. If you chart the miners as a spread—divide the price of GDX by the gold price, express it as a percentage—you’ll see it has broken out above clearly defined trend structures. Same with silver.

That suggests to us that we’ve entered the phase where silver and miners begin leading gold. This has happened before—and when it does, it tends to be dramatic. For example, during the 2001–2011 bull market, silver went vertical in 2010 while gold was rising more steadily. Silver exploded geometrically.

And we’re at that phase again. Just look at a silver futures continuation chart, going back to the 2022 low. That was when we saw gold fall from around $2,000 down to $1,620.

Craig Hemke (09:54)
Thanks.

Michael Oliver (10:00)
Silver followed, hitting a low then. Same with miners. If you plot price action since the 2022 low—around August or September—you’ll see a clear upward trend channel. We’ve broken out above that channel about a month ago, and we’ve paused since, but we remain above it.

Even on a price chart, the breakout is visible—momentum had broken out even earlier. I think silver has now entered the acceleration phase. Our expectation? It’s not outlandish—we think silver is heading to $60–70.

Think about the $50 highs in 1980 and 2011. In today’s money, those aren’t the same. Due to currency debasement, hitting $50 today isn’t equivalent. In real dollar terms, we’d probably need to hit $200 to match the 1980 peak. But we expect $60–70 in this current surge, possibly before the end of the year.

Craig Hemke (11:31)
Right, right. This year.

Michael Oliver (11:54)
Exactly. And I don’t think we’ll just pause at $50—we’ll blow past it. And no, that won’t be the end. This isn’t just another gold/silver bull market like in 1980 or 2011. There are much bigger macro factors at play now—some already underway, others looming.

I don’t even call them “precious” metals. Platinum is a precious metal. Gold and silver are monetary metals. And when things really hit the fan—pardon the expression—central banks will react more extremely than ever before.

Craig Hemke (12:18)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Michael Oliver (12:22)
Because it won’t just be the stock market going down. It’ll be all those “strong” data points—employment, consumer health, etc.—collapsing. Right now, they tout a good job market, but if you look at the details, it’s not that strong. Once the stock market drops, the ripple effects hit hiring, then the economy, and finally the central banks go into panic mode.

Craig Hemke (12:42)
That’s…

Michael Oliver (12:49)
Every time that happens—2000, 2008—you see the same thing. CEOs pause hiring or begin layoffs, and the data turns south fast. That’s when the Fed goes into emergency rate cuts. And what assets rally? Gold and T-bonds.

Craig Hemke (13:16)
Yeah.

Michael Oliver (13:19)
That’s the historical pattern. And while T-bonds usually benefit, this time they’re not responding to the Fed like they used to. We’re talking about the long end of the curve—30-year T-bond futures—not 90-day paper.

Craig Hemke (13:51)
Yeah, please go on.

Michael Oliver (14:06)
When the Fed cut rates recently, T-bonds still fell in price, rising in yield. Even during the April drop in the stock market, T-bonds didn’t respond. They remain anemic—barely off the floor of their multi-year range.

That’s a problem, because it means long-term rates are still choking the system. It’s not like 2007–2009, where the mortgage market was the issue. Now it’s government debt, corporate debt, commercial real estate, and overstretched consumers.

Craig Hemke (15:12)
Right, right.

Michael Oliver (15:34)
When this becomes undeniable, gold is already ahead of the curve. That’s why it hasn’t been waiting for bad data. It knows what’s coming. Not just in the U.S.—Japan is easing again, and the EU will follow.

So we watch the stock market, not just for the market’s sake, but for how it drives central bank policy and money flows.

Craig Hemke (15:40)
Mm-hmm.

Michael Oliver (16:03)
When people flee the stock market, they need somewhere to go. Usually, it’s gold and T-bonds. But right now, T-bonds aren’t working. Gold is. Gold has outperformed the stock market over the past year, three years, even 10 years. Since 2015, it’s been a better-performing asset.

Craig Hemke (16:07)
Right. I’m smiling as you say that. I mean, what’s Nvidia’s market cap now—$4 trillion? Just 1% of that flowing out equals $40 billion. The entire GDX is worth around $15 billion.

Michael Oliver (16:29)
Exactly. It’s like a wet bar of soap—tiny sector. When people start grabbing it, it moves fast. I think smart money already sees it. They know something’s wrong with the stock market. Yes, it made a new high, but so did it in 2000. We called that top in January 2000.

Craig Hemke (16:49)
Yeah, that’s a good way to put it.

Michael Oliver (17:15)
It didn’t go anywhere. It plateaued for the rest of the year. Same thing in 2007—peaked mid-year, dropped into August, bounced back with Fed help, then collapsed. Tops are tricky. You need momentum analysis to really see them forming.

Craig Hemke (17:47)
Yep. Michael, what you do is really proprietary. Let me ask a more fundamental question. It’s been a hot topic this July—Trump has made it clear he won’t renominate Powell. He’s also calling for rate cuts, loudly.

Michael Oliver (18:25)
Yes.

Craig Hemke (18:34)
Even if Powell doesn’t step down early, we’ll have a new Fed Chair by May if Trump wins. That likely means aggressive cuts, maybe even yield curve control. Could that fundamentally support your outlook?

Michael Oliver (19:02)
It’s all part of the larger pattern. These policy shifts—especially politically motivated ones—are no longer minor changes. They’re swings. And for those who still see Trump as a free-market guy, I’d argue you’re not a free-market advocate if you endorse centralized price control over money.

He wants 1% rates. Why not zero? It’s helped inflate the stock bubble for 15 years. Print free money, and everything goes up. Gold already sees this.

Even if Powell stays, I think he’ll shift too—possibly in the next month or two.

Michael Oliver (19:58)
All it will take is a few bad data points—especially on unemployment. The way they interpret jobs data is misleading. For instance, last month they reported a gain of 150,000 jobs, but half of those were government jobs—state and local. The rest? Mostly hospitality and home care. Take those out, and the core economy was flat to negative.

Yet Powell looks at that and says the job market is strong. But he already has two Fed governors saying they want to cut now. All it takes is one more, and suddenly you have a chorus. Even if Powell doesn’t want to, the internal pressure will mount. He’ll pivot. I don’t think he’s going to wait until May and try to play hero.

Craig Hemke (21:17)
Yeah.

Michael Oliver (21:25)
If the stock market is topping—as we believe—and suddenly you slip back below the prior highs from 2024 (NASDAQ) or 2025 (S&P), then the so-called breakout doesn’t look like a breakout anymore. It looks like a fakeout.

One of the first books I ever read on technicals was Technical Analysis of Stock Market Trends by Edwards and McGee. It’s a massive 400-page book from 1958. I bought it in a financial bookstore near Wall Street when I worked at Hutton. Still have it.

Craig Hemke (21:53)
Go ahead.

Michael Oliver (22:22)
In that book, they describe a pattern almost no one talks about: the broadening top. It’s the opposite of a coil. Instead of prices narrowing, they widen—higher highs and lower lows. It’s confusing because a top can make new highs after topping has begun. That’s where we might be now—point 5 in a 5-4-3-2-1 broadening pattern.

You rarely hear CNBC or Fox analysts mention that. But it’s classic—and it’s showing up not just in the S&P and NASDAQ, but in sectors and even stocks like Nvidia. If we roll over from here and fall below those early-year highs, people will start to wonder if that breakout was a trap.

Craig Hemke (23:41)
Yeah, yeah. Right.

Michael Oliver (23:51)
Then suddenly—oops—what looked like a breakout wasn’t. And at that point, you’d better hope the April lows hold. We got bearish in January and predicted a bounce around 4,800 on the S&P—it hit 4,835. For the NASDAQ 100, we called 16,500—it stopped right around there and bounced. The bounce was stronger than expected and made new highs—but we don’t trust those highs.

This is important for gold watchers. A breakdown in equities will trigger central banks to act—and that will drive money elsewhere. I believe that shift has already started.

Craig Hemke (24:43)
Yep.

Michael Oliver (24:48)
Miners? No, they’re not dead money anymore. If you’re fleeing equities, and you don’t want to buy silver futures or physical metal, what do you buy? Miners. Look at Newmont—they posted strong results and the stock surged. That’s money flowing in.

It’s a recognition that the miners are doing very well—and they’re still undervalued.

Craig Hemke (25:21)
Yeah, it’s almost a value play at this point, Mike—opposite of growth.

Michael Oliver (25:23)
Exactly. And we think miners could triple in relative value to gold over the next year or two. Triple.

If gold moves from $3,400 to $6,800 or $8,000—which isn’t crazy considering we’ve had two previous eight-fold bull markets—then imagine where GDX could go if it also triples in relation.

Craig Hemke (25:37)
That would be substantial, yeah.

Michael Oliver (25:52)
And silver? It could go even crazier in terms of regaining value.

Craig Hemke (26:00)
Nice. Michael, in our final minutes, I want to circle back to the mining sector. I’ve been watching GDX pushing against that 54–55 area and failing. It reminds me of the big head-and-shoulders top from 2011–2012, with the shoulders at 55 and the head at 65. Seems like there’s strong resistance there.

Michael Oliver (26:44)
Actually, we calculate that level a bit lower. If you look at the low monthly closes from the 2011 peak, they’re below where we are now. So technically, we’re already above it—on a closing basis. The one that’s right at it now is SIL—the silver miner ETF.

Craig Hemke (26:47)
Okay. That’s the silver miner one.

Michael Oliver (27:14)
Right. SIL is around $50. It’s peaked at that level multiple times since 2015—2016, 2020… and now. This is the third time. If it closes a month clearly above $50, it’s going to blow through its price base. Momentum already has.

That base is so obvious, even price-chart traders will recognize it. And once they do, they’ll pile in—and that’s when we see the big move. If you take out the 2011 highs in GDX and SIL, it’ll happen quickly. This is a major setup.

Craig Hemke (27:50)
Right. So something to watch. We’re recording this on the 29th, so we’ll want to watch how July closes—especially that $50 level.

Michael Oliver (28:10)
Yep. Any month that closes credibly above $50 could trigger a move. Maybe the breakout month closes at $55—we’ll see. But it’s a price base that’s been building for 10 years. Most traders only look at price, not momentum. Momentum already gave the green light. But when price confirms, that’s when the broader crowd rushes in. And the money flow will be massive. Like you said—it’s a wet bar of soap.

Craig Hemke (28:17)
Right, right. So for folks who want to follow along—it’s OliverMSA.com, correct? And if I remember, you offer both a full package and specific reports like just precious metals?

Michael Oliver (28:48)
Correct. You can subscribe just to the gold/silver/mining reports or to our full broad-market coverage. If you request sample reports, we’ll send some over so you can take a look.

Craig Hemke (29:07)
Perfect. And you know I like to say—Eric Sprott values your work. So here’s my chance to sneak in my favorite joke. You started your career at EF Hutton—so now we can say: When Michael Oliver speaks, people listen.

Michael Oliver (29:25)
[Laughs] You remember those ads? People sitting in a restaurant, someone leans over and says, “EF Hutton says…” and the whole room goes silent. Yeah. They eventually went under, but it was fun being there.

Craig Hemke (29:27)
Yes, for sure. Everyone leans in. Well, that’s how it is now. When Michael Oliver speaks, people listen.

So, please check out OliverMSA.com. Michael, thank you so much for your time—this has been fantastic and very insightful. We really appreciate it.

And to everyone watching—head over to SprottMoney.com and check out the summer sale. Get yourself some physical gold and silver. Based on what Michael just shared, these prices are still very affordable.

Michael Oliver (29:49)
Thanks, Craig.

Craig Hemke (30:08)
And everyone—please subscribe to this channel. We’ve got more great content coming in August, and you don’t want to miss it. For now, that wraps up our July monthly wrap-up. Thanks for watching—we’ll see you next month.

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